Monday, February 8, 2010

Military tribunals back on at gitmp. is this just another campaign promise obama has flip floped on?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/OpenForQuestio鈥?/a>Military tribunals back on at gitmp. is this just another campaign promise obama has flip floped on?
He is learning Bush had few easy decisions.





edit: craig, tune in CNN, also, check out what CIA Director Panetta has to say about Pelosi. She is dishonest.Military tribunals back on at gitmp. is this just another campaign promise obama has flip floped on?
Obama seems to be growing in the office, now if we can get the democrat leadership admit what they knew and when.
We told them so and they did not listen. Forgive them for they know not what they do.
Yes, it is. I'm an Obama supporter, and am dismayed by some of his recent decisions.
I do not call it flip flopping,I call it, putting your application in for a brain surgeon with only a high school education.He is finally finding out the job requires more knowledge and experience then he has for the job,and he knows there is no way he can keep all of his campagin promies.
Obama is immediately changing the rules that govern the GITMO trials in ways consistent with his past criticism of the Bush system.


The changes in the rules are as follows:





_Restrictions on hearsay evidence that can be used in court against the detainees.





_A ban on all evidence obtained through cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment. This would include statements given from detainees who were subjected to waterboarding, a form of simulated drowning.





_Giving detainees greater leeway in choosing their own military counsel.





_Protecting detainees who refuse to testify from legal sanctions or other court prejudices.





So no, he's not going against his campaign promise at all.
Yes of course it is.. but he will stammer and stutter and cover it up.. and the sheep will baa.. and grin and think he is wonderful.. Sickening!
Yes...





Once again... Obama ran his mouth about something he knew NOTHING about.





He ranted about Gitmo without fully understanding the evil that Bush had been fighting.
I see no problem with improving the system and ACTUALLY holding trials. Bush did neither.
Well I said it would be on the job training for him. So far it looks that way. It sure looks like a general officer or two may have shown him where the bear shite in the buckwheat.
Well, few people know that your president is making Executive orders. Executive orders do not come under the control of either the congress or the senate. One was the order to grant 20.4 million $ to Hamas to come live in the U.S. These E O's are not publicized by the anti democracy media. Call your congressman or senator and they will not even know of the many E O's given that favor our enemies. Tribunals are fair hearings. They also hold them for some of our people in the military. It is called a court marshall. Some of the ones we released have been captured again on the battlefield. The pres is a child at play with no understanding of what he is d
Obama is simply learning that it is one thing to talk a good game and another to play one. He is getting a good dose of reality these days.
I think 10-20 out of 500 will get these. I hardly call that a 'flip-flop'. But, since the cases were ruined, there is only so much you can do.





These tribunals will still disallow testimony based on torture, and you will be able to face your accuser and so on. They are similiar to federal courts, but not the same.





I would obviously prefer he prosecute them all in regular courts/





This has nothing to do with shutting down Gitmo.





EDIT: Yes, the libs will go crazy if he doesn't shutdown GITMO. Actually, we aren't sending anyone over there anymore, to the point is sort of moot.
Obama pandered to the public in order to get elected and made many promises that he did not intend to keep. I don't like Obama but he is not totally stupid. There are things that a president has to do and he will do them.
I knew as soon as he got into office his eyes would open up. There is so much out there for the president to side with that people campaigning don't realize. Obama promised a lot, and when he got into office he learned the cold hard truth.

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